Saturday, November 26, 2005

Religions Based On Hate

This time of year, my girlfriend and I enjoy spending a weekend in Manhattan. We love to go shopping, dine out and of course, see the Christmas tree. I know, it’s so ‘touristy’ of us to do that as ‘New Yorkers’, but there’s nothing like being among people who are in the holiday spirit. There’s something magical about it.

This year, we won’t be going. It’s mostly on my part. My fear has increased with each news broadcast I see. A few weeks ago, al-Qaida had blown up two Baghdad hotels. They were all suicide bombers in vehicles. Their mission is to kill all westerners—mostly American journalists. They ended up killing Iraqi civilians. They’re taking the risk of killing themselves, as well as their own people.

What about New York? All it takes is a truckload of explosives to take down one hotel. They proved that in Iraq already. They have such hatred towards Americans. They claim that their God wants them to do this; to fight against anyone who is not Muslim. Their God wants them to commit suicide while murdering other people. On top of that, do they really receive 72 virgins when they arrive in heaven? Just think about that sentence alone, and see how ridiculous that sounds.

I had an ex-boyfriend when I was younger. Yes, I dated men before. He was from Pakistan, and was Muslim. I respected his religion, as he respected mine—although, I wasn’t quite ‘into’ Christianity as I am today. I was only sixteen years old back then being raised as a Catholic. I remember him teaching me all about his religion. His religion was ‘loving’, just like my belief in Christianity is. His religion taught him to be kind to others, and to love---as Christianity teaches me.

Then why is his religion different from those who want to commit suicide and murder? My ex does not believe that he will receive 72 virgins if he does kill westerners for his God.

Look at it this way—the Ku Klux Klan are Christians. They believe that burning crosses on people’s lawn is a good thing. They also believe that name calling, such as “kike, nigger, faggot and gook” are okay. Can you imagine walking into an Assembly of God church, and hearing those words come out of the pastor?

Just like different sectors of Christianity, there are different sectors of the Muslim religion. What bothered me the most, was when after the 9/11 attacks, some American civilians took it upon themselves to go out there and attack and kill “any” Muslim they could find. They did it out of anger. They thought that all Muslims were the same, and believed in the same thing. They’re not all the same. Just like Christians.

If the KKK is so against the Jews, then why are they worshipping Jesus? Wasn’t Jesus Jewish?

If the Muslim religion teaches about love and respect, why do some people of this religion murder for the sake of their God?

Does God truly want us to act out in hate? In any religion that believes in a ‘God’---how can God hate? God is supposed to be ‘all love’. Love does not kill.

So next time you see a Muslim person, forget about what others have done for their religion. Look at the person; look at their heart. And the next time you see me, forget about the cruelty that has been done for the sake of ‘Christianity’. I hope that you will see I’m not full of hate.


Casually Me said...

Love the honesty on your blog. Some I agree with, some I don't. I do go away feeling better after reading your stuff, and that is the true test for good writing. Keep it up, and thanks.

~Deb said...

Well thank you. I appreciate your comment, and I especially like the fact that you don't agree with everything. I guess that's what makes the world most interesting.

Carla said...

I will put it simply today...


I have a hard time understanding hate because it is not an emotion I feel, even for my enemies.

Great post!

Hamel said...

Well said. Judge an individual, not a stereotype. As Matthew Sweet sings in "Holy War", "I'm not in for killing another man, as if there's a God who would understand."

bbsgirl said...

wow, very nice post. Thought provoking. I do agree that no one has the right to judge another simply by race, creed and certainly religious beliefs. I can't stand prejudices in any form.

Thanks for the visit to my blog..I've seen you before, just haven't made it here before now.

grainne said...

Hello Deb, I guess it is about time I stop lurking and get around to introducing myself.
I have been tempted to respond to other posts you have made but haven’t. This posting is one I would like to offer some input on.

I spent a large number of my teenaged years, living in a Muslim country – Turkey where my mother hired a Turkish woman to take care of me, oversee my day-to-day life and keep me out of her hair. I spent a great deal of time with her and learned important lessons from her family about the Muslim/Christian/Jewish conflicts but from a side that so many people never see. Muslims do not forget perceived wrong doings– hence the disputes between Muslim and Jews – these conflicts predate Christianity. Christians also invaded Muslim lands – results from the Crusades will never be forgotten. They still call people from Christian lands infidels due to that war and odds are that will never change. Just the poverty that I saw as a kid would be enough for these people to hate - imagine living in the 1970’s and they had no electricity, no running water, no cars, no doctors…resentment alone is a great factor in the hatred.

The oddest part for me is that Islam, Christian and Judaism all based on the Abrahamic foundation. Condemnation of anyone based on religious beliefs is as bigoted as people who judge people base on skin color or sexual orientation. We have extremists in every religion and these are the people who tend to stand out and end up misrepresenting all members of a faith or country. It’s very strange to me, that people who all are descendants of the same basic ideology can constantly be at war against each other but that is what fanatics do. I was raised deep in the Catholic faith – the only teachers I knew until I was 15 years old were nuns. I learned to despise and look down on people of other Christian and non-Christian faiths as inferior or not as good as Catholics are – before we as people can learn to embrace people who have an entirely different belief system, we have to learn how to embrace those with similar belief systems. As long as governments allow religion to be part of the process…. we are always going to have these problems.

Thanks for the thought provoking post this weekend!

DZER said...

the problem with loving religions turning violent is always the same: people.

People are what always fuck up a religion. That's why popes ordered "witches" burned, innocents tortured. It's why some muslims feel that murder gets them into heaven. it's why some "christians" trying to "save" the unborn commit murder.

unfortunately, as long as there are people, these things will happen

although ... if you think about it ... when's the last time you heard of a buddhist extremist killing others (they only set themselves on fire). What about Hindus? I haven't heard any fanatical Hindu murderer stories ... hmmm

green said...

All religions have extremists, and all religions are imperfect because they are run by people. Imperfect people - sinners.

When I went to Egypt in 1996 I met many Muslims who were wonderful people, not extremists by any stretch. They valued the differences between Christians and Muslims. What a great experience that was!

There's a great book called "Abraham: A Journey to the Heart of Three Faiths" by Bruce Feiler that I highly recommend.

Thanks for the great post!

KyuBall said...

I have to agree with the last few comments. It's the people, not the religion that's messed up.

I think Grainne touched on it a bit more in that the Muslim issue is more born out of the regional culture than the religion. It seems to me that the people of the Middle East, in general, tend to look more to the past for answers while we "infidels" are more focused on the present and future...mostly.

This is just my view of it, but if these countries could break this cycle of violence, then the world tension would ease just enough that we might see some kind of normalcy. Unfortunately, I just don't ever see that happening. I think we're on the brink of a Third World War, seriously.

:phil: said...

Good post. Being raised catholic and spending 8 years in a catholic school has soured me on organized religions (I'm a recovering catholic) I agree with many of the comments above and I think there are extremists in all faiths. They miss the point of what God is supposed to be about and have caused many of the world's problems throughout history.

Mike said...

Religion and hate should never mix.

kathi said...

Go see the dang tree.

Romeo Jensen said...

I think the KKK version of Jesus is a Blonde Haired Blue eyed Aryan skin head

kinda like a bald me... sans the blue eyes (mine are blue/green)... and Germanic heritage (Grandfather Jensen... ancestors go back at least 12 generations of pure Danes... grandmother was from Sweeden and her family tree had vikings in it... no shizzle!)

wait a minute... me bald????

Nooooooooooooooooooooo way!

besides... the KKK are just a bunch of Nazi's minus the fuzzy warmness

Michelle said...


It is heartbreaking to me that you chose not to go to NYC and celebrate. One, because it truly is a magical experience, it's so great this time of year. Two, because of the ignorance of people from all religions and colors caused you to fear that which you most enjoy, life... and the opportunity to enjoy it with freedom to chose and do what we want.

Bill Jones, Jr said...

LOL. Kathi is sooo to the point. I agree. Go see the dang tree. Or come to DC and see the National Christmas tree. We have security out the ass down here. I'll send flowers to your hotel. :)

I agree with your post. I remember Malcolm X. He was a "Black Muslim" and was preaching as much hate as love. Then he went to Mecca, and learned real Islam. He came back Malik al Shabbaz, and preached only love. Of course, the Black Muslims then killed him.

People are quick to kill in the name of God. I just hope there is a special place in hell for these morons.

Phil - "Recovering catholic." Gotta remember that one. Me too.

~Deb said...

All of you are right. It’s the ‘people’, not the religion. That explains why there are so many sectors of each religion; people, beliefs, different faiths, etc…

I do want to see the tree, and experience NYC again, but I don’t think we will be spending the weekend there as we usually plan when we go. We’ll probably make it just a day trip. Unfortunately, I’m still scared about any sort of truck driving up to the hotel.

How do they monitor a truck full of explosives? What if it was all created in NYC? A terrorist cell right in the midst of it all? It only takes one truck to just stop at the location, and BAM--- all gone. That’s my fear.

I know I wouldn’t sleep at night if I were to stay.

:phil: said...

Hi Deb, not to be a smart ass, but the drive in is more likely to kill you. I have to go in to the city every Monday for some medical stuff. I always get nervous on the GW bridge but then I'm ok. I won't take subways, I prefer the buses or walking. Part of me thinks I'll get through cancer only to be taken out by some terrorist?
I don't think so.

See the tree, have a blast (no pun intended) do some yoga ;-)

~Deb said...

Nothing is worse than that Lincoln Tunnel. I never take the subway, because I'm too afraid of ...well... ummm... some of the people as well as any other 'terror threats' down there.

GW bridge is my only means of going there. I'm actually good at driving in the city, so I don't mind it.

I'll plan on doing some yoga as I drive over there next week for the that can be dangerous!

SignGurl said...

Deb, your posts amaze and inspire me to think about topics that I don't always have time to think about every day.

So, I'm thankful that I've found you to promote deep thinking, lol.

~Deb said...

I'm so glad you had time to think today. ;)

Leesa said...

Not sure that "its the people, not the religion" is an appropriate response. Jesus died on the cross for the people's souls, not some ideas scribbled down on scrolls that eventually made it into the Bible.

When I see people who hate, I think to myself, "There is an opportunity for someone to grow." Someone I know just died - and this sort of inspires me to write about him. Perhaps tomorrow.

Geoffrey Hirschfeld said...

It annoys me to see people just lumping all Muslims or persons of an faith into one category. HELLO! We are all kids of Abraham when it comes to Judiasm, Islam, and Christianity. We must embrace one another to understand our differences, and at the same time we can understand better the sects that want to distroy another of God's children.

Deb, I am not saying this to be condescending, and I know that I was no where near Manhattan on 9/11, but please don't be afraid. To be afraid in my opinion is to let the terrorists win, and their weapon is hate. You have the strongest sword in your bag, much greater than their hate, and that is the love that you show the world by the way that you live your life, through Christ. Maybe if I lived in a city like NYC I would fear, and maybe if I smelled the acrid smoke of the twin towers I might feel different, but I can't see living my life in fear. God will do what God is going to do no matter what I do-except If I choose to love, then he is going to help me love and be the love he gave in Christ.Peace be with you in this struggle.

Just some food for thought, and I hope you had a fantastic thanksgiving!