Tuesday, February 17, 2009

Deb & Madelene's Bi-Polar Moments

Warning: This video may cause an urge nausea, headaches and dizziness. Ask your doctor before clicking on play.

33 comments:

Dr. Deb said...

So fun.


And you are both so beautiful!!!!!

The Mad Hoosier said...

I'm not sure if I should watch it. Is this about real bi-polar moments, or just a play on the disorder?

If I am or have friend/family member with bi-polar disorder, would I be offended?

~Deb said...

Thanks, Deb!

The Mad Hoosier: The song has the word "bi-polar" in it. It's really not about bi-polar disorder, it's a song by Katy Perry. I don't think it's offensive, but if you're concerned, then certainly don't click on it.

Marel Lecone said...

I absolutely love this song!

Cute. :)

SJ said...

I am at work and can't turn on the volume but yeah you two look great!

the walking man said...

Well now I have to decide which I like better...this video (especially loved the apron) or the sneeze videos...maybe a youtube pedicure for Madelene would be the tie breaker (if one of you sneezes in it)

Leesa said...

I really liked your music video. So professionally done. And I agree with the Doctor. So beautiful. And you have so much fun!

Just_because_today said...

That was really funny!

Anonymous said...

Deb: Enjoyed it. I thought the acting was good and liked the music.

Can you please clarify which one is you and which is Madeline?

I was looking at a running magazine that had race listings in it. I saw a lighthouse and thought of you.

Kevin

~Deb said...
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~Deb said...

Marel: We do too, but she does more only because she makes fun of me with it...

SJ: *pinches your cheeks*

The Walking Man: You’re silly! So you like me in an apron, huh? Did you see the words on it? “Kitchen Bitch”. So true, huh? I’ll get back to the sneezing videos soon enough...soon enough....

Leesa: Thank you! It’s a lot of fun and surprisingly very easy to make! I give all credit to my Mac.

Just Because Today: We’re dorks!

Kevin: Thanks! In the still shot of the video, Madelene is on the left and I’m on the right. I’m the one in the red apron, if that helps----the crazy housewife.

Trashman said...

Great editing. Cool video. It doesn't hurt that you're fun to look at also.

Jess said...

You guys apparently have been watching us...cause I totally recognize those dance moves and that is only the BEST clean the house song in the WORLD!

We LURVE Katy Perry!!!

The Mad Hoosier said...

Thanks for the heads up. I'll pass on this one. Many poke fun at disorder, or at least use the word without understanding that it destroys the lives of loved ones whom are affected with the disorder. It's either cruelty or ignorance on the part of those who toss the word around haphazardly.

~Deb said...

Trashman: Thanks for watching, I appreciate the compliment! :)

Jess: Ain't she great???

The Mad Hoosier: Well, that's ok, I do understand. I hope you manage throughout life dodging offenses, because there are many. I poke fun at myself all the time, which eases anything I'm going through. I've made fun of myself for being an alcoholic, being sober for 3 months now, but I never take offense when people poke fun at it, even if alcoholism destroys people's lives just as well.
I don't believe it's ignorance, unless the person is deliberately insulting someone specifically who has the disorder.

~Deb said...

P.S. On my profile, you can see where I write, "Content may be controversial and opinionated. An opened mind is required. Ask your doctor if this blog’s right for you."

Anonymous said...

Deb: I agree with Trashman, you're both very easy to watch.

I can tell you weren't trying to be offensive using the term "bi-polar". I can tell by your writing style that you're not trying to be offensive in any of your posts.

Regarding your comment on alcoholism, keep up the good work. Three months is excellent. I gave up alcohol many years ago. I didn't consciously start out to give it up. I didn't have a drink for a few months and then said I don't need it and am better off without it. I was your age when I gave it up. Good job.

Kevin

~Deb said...

Aww, thanks, Kev. :)

I really didn't mean it to be offensive, other than poke fun at myself, as far as being 'up and I'm down', as the song states, as well as them pinning the word "bi-polar" out in the song. So, all in all, I'm making fun of myself here.

I was just going to do the 90 day test, but I'm finding out that my life is so much better without it. Congrats to you about not drinking and being able to stay off it. I don't crave it any longer, nor do I need it to socialize, thank God!

I appreciated your comment! Thank you!

Anonymous said...

Deb: One comment about socializing.

When you are not drinking alcohol it's interesting to observe others that are when you are in a social setting.

I find it very easy to socialize without alcohol and actually prefer it since I have all my senses and those that are drinking alcohol might not, especially as the night goes on.

Kevin

The Mad Hoosier said...

I've never said, nor do I have any delusions of going through life without being offended. Additionally, I didn't need the reminder of controversial subject matter. It's not if I just stumbled upon this blog 3 minutes ago and have never had in depth conversations with you and others on this blog.

What I was trying to do was subtly suggest that poking fun of something you may not know everything about isn't the wisest thing to do. Not only is it offenisve, but it does show that you are ignorant to the topic. Note the difference between ignorance, and cruelty, which is what I would define as deliberately insulting someone specifically who has the disorder.

To compare your situation with alcohol to bi-polar is reckless at best. People often use humor in regards to themselves to keep themselves in check and to let others know that they don't have to be on pins and needles around you.

Alcoholism is a self-inflicted problem that develops into a disease. Bi-polarism is a genetic disease in which someone is on medication for life. There's nothing funny about being so depressed that suicide is often considered and sometimes attempted. There's nothing funny about being so hyper that you're often accused of being on drugs. There's nothing funny of having both of those inflictions being wrapped into one and perhaps experiences both extremes alternating months. If you think you'd be making fun of it if you were inflicted with the disease, and experiencing these extremes often, more power to you. But I'll go out on a limb and say that you wouldn't.

So I'm sorry for being so abrasive on your blog...it wasn't my intention when it started. But things snowballed and I had to stand up and defend those who have this disease.

~Deb said...
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~Deb said...

Kevin: I’ve noticed that! It is very interesting and almost embarrassing to think: “Wait, I used to do that...?”

The Mad Hoosier: Simple: don’t visit my blog if this offends you. #1. To say that alcohol isn’t genetic is ignorant in itself. My grandfather was an alcoholic and some members of the family, so don’t tell me it isn’t in my blood.

Alcohol has killed my parents best friends in their late 60’s, while an intoxicated driver hit and killed them. Alcohol has ruined many marriages and sunk people into a pit of depression, which also resulted in numerous suicides. If the person who is an alcoholic does not get help, then it worsens...just as those with bi-polar disorder, who do not seek help or get medication.

So yeah, make light of alcoholism... It’s ok, because I’m ok with it. But don’t tell me what I can or cannot write on my blog, because you seem to be the only one offended by something that was said in a song. Contact Katy Perry, the one who wrote the song and complain to her.

My advice would be: search for a more suitable and less offensive blog and carry on my friend.

The Mad Hoosier said...

Deb,

Sorry about your luck with the alcohol. I don't make light of the subject, you were the one using the initial comparision. My father is a first generation alcoholic. No one in his family was before him, no one in his family is after him. So it's not all genetic. There are some studies that are trying to link it to a genetic component, but can't find the direct link yet. To ignore any learned behavior component is silly.

As far as me carrying on to somewhere else, if that's what you wish, I don't want to hang around and pester people for no reason. If you only want people to come here and agree with everything you say and not challenge you and force you to look at things different ways, then perhaps I should leave well enough alone....just say the word.

But from my persepctive, your blog doesn't offend me...your ignorance of bi-polarism does. Of course, it is my problem that I'm offended by your ignorance of the issue...but I thought it prudent to call you out on it. Actually it wasn't the ignorance of the subject that offended me so much as the assumption that I'm some fragile little man who can't handle being offended by someone who was less than well informed about bi-polarism.

If I was that fragile person that offends easily, I would have left when we disagreed about religion, or when we didn't quite see eye to eye about abortion, or any miriad of other controversial topics that I've commented on.

But I'm not that person that you quickly painted me to be, almost ignoring any previous interactions we've had. I seek out like-minded and different-minded individuals alike to both learn for myself and teach others...something I felt I found in this blog, hence the reason to keep coming back and to reach out and try to inform when possible.

I thank you for your adivce, but I frequent blogs much more "offensive" than this one and am happy to do so.

So again, I'm sorry if I offended you by pointing things out about bi-polarism that you didn't know. I don't seek to make enemies and don't wish to torment those that don't want me around...so if you wish me to stop frequenting and commenting on your blog, please let me know and I'll apologize one final time and leave well enough alone.

The Mad Hoosier said...

And just an FYI: those that are finally diagnosed with bi-polar disorder...after being misdiagnosed with multiple personality disorder, depression, mania, schizophrenia, and perhaps a few other misdiagnosis beforehand, there is no "seeking help" as you put it.

The only way to deal with bi-polarism is through medication. That is until that medication builds resistance and then the person who has bi-polar disorder believes that they don't need the medication any more. So they stop taking it and eventually fall into one of their episodes...perhaps leading to running away from their family, traumatizing their children as they try to explain to their friends at school where their father is and why he was found 5 states away after mysteriously disappearing.

Then they get to try new medication, and the process is repeated all over again.

Just in case you wanted to know.

the walking man said...

Get thyself back in the kitchen and make me some cookies too!

While I don't disagree that Bi-Polar is a terrible thing as is a drinking drunk (been there done that, seen there, didn't like it) I do so dislike when someone will take a small non issue, stand on a soap box of self appointment and wipe away the humor (and love) from the main point.

(waves fingers around communal nose to elicit air clearing sneeze)

~Deb said...

The Mad Hoosier: I wasn’t the one making the comparison. You had stated, ”Alcoholism is a self-inflicted problem that develops into a disease. Bi-polarism is a genetic disease in which someone is on medication for life.”

I disagree. I do believe that it’s in the blood of some people, hence the word, alcoholism, whereas some people can drink in moderation and can leave it or take it. With us, it’s in our blood, making us crave it more, which yes, develops into larger scales of wherever it takes us, but you have to agree that both alcoholism and bi-polar disorder are hard things to deal with in life.

”There's nothing funny about being so depressed that suicide is often considered and sometimes attempted.”

I wasn’t laughing at people who suffer from it. It was indicating that I was having “bi-polar” moments, because I, myself suffer from being a manic depressive, which may have been diagnosed poorly. I’ve written in my blog and my book of how I was suicidal and almost attempted it myself, so don’t tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about. There are tons of people who are loosely diagnosed with this because doctors are so itchy to get a kickback. I think everyone has their problems and “naming” a disorder only puts a label on their head, in my opinion. Take it as you will, take that as “offensive”, but I think we all have our vulnerable moments.

”As far as me carrying on to somewhere else, if that's what you wish, I don't want to hang around and pester people for no reason.”

No, I’m happy you read my blog and comment from time-to-time, which is great, but also know that I may poke fun at myself, not anyone else----it wasn’t a term to hurt others. That wasn’t my intention at all. I do like hearing opposing views, however I didn’t expect that one word from a song and having to also write about “our bi-polar moments” was going to be taken as highly offensive, or to be considered as “ignorant”.

”But from my perspective, your blog doesn't offend me...your ignorance of bi-polarism does.”

Would it scare you to tears to know that I worked for a mental health facility for quite some time helping those who had bi-polar, schizophrenia, depression and other disorders? I cared about those people and helped them a great deal. What about the song “Manic Mondays”. Does it make your skin cringe to hear that? Did you write to the artist telling her how ignorant she was by using that word? Manic depression is the old word for “bi-polar”, and usually I will apologize for my mistake, but I won’t, because people know where my heart is. I’m not cruel or ignorant about it - I’m making fun of myself.

”..so if you wish me to stop frequenting and commenting on your blog, please let me know and I'll apologize one final time and leave well enough alone.”

Apology accepted. I like you and I like what you have to say in your blog. I read your often, however I don’t comment all that much only because I’m not knowledgeable in a lot of the political things you write about, however I enjoy reading it because I learn a lot from you.

Again, thank you for taking the time out to comment. :)

Peace.

~Deb said...

The Walking Man: A sneeze is much needed right now... :)

Anonymous said...

Gesundheit!

Looks like we could use a little bit of levity right about now.

Kevin

~Deb said...

Thank you, Kev!!! Can you pass the tissues?

laughingwolf said...

no question, deb... YOU TWO ROCK :D

Fu Manchu Dad said...

The video was incredibly funny and just plain fun. It's so cool that you and Madeline share such a great sense of humor and fun that you two could do something like that together.
Sorry your comment box got so heavy.
Take care,
FMD

Amber said...

number 1 - i love this video

number 2 - i love katy perry

number 3 - lol that this stupid song is causing you some crazy blogger dramaz! the song says "love bi-polar" which is exactly what i think a lot of us have in our relationship.

~Deb said...

Laughing: Thank you! :)

Fun Manchu: I appreciate it. We have so much fun when together. She's great and so cooperative with my 15 yr old ideas! :) About the comment box: eh...it happens...but I had no hurtful intentions whatsoever.

Amber: Thanks!!! It was a lot of fun to do... It's not that I'm "ignorant" or "uneducated" about the real bi-polar disorder - you're absolutely right - I am trying to point out the "bi-polar" or "manic" moments within a relationship. People are sensitive, and that's ok... But I'm not going to apologize only because I make fun of myself on a daily basis and I really didn't have hurtful intentions nor was making fun of the disorder.. But you got me! :)