Friday, June 27, 2008

Deceased Loved Ones' Promises

Sometimes I hesitate to write about this type of thing, however, I truly believe that there are mysteries on the “other side” that we just cannot comprehend, believe or fathom. As a Christian, I would like to believe and mostly believe that if we have faith in God, and we’re fairly good and willing to atone for our shortcomings, that we all go to heaven. But as a human, I do wonder about the gray areas. I’m sure you do too. It’s as easy as grasping a UFO in the Midwest somewhere. A lot of people have seen them, but are they really out there? Teenage lawn boys did all those crop circles and you can’t even rely on “real footage” that you see on T.V. or Youtube anymore. Usually, you later find out that it was a setup or camera trick to try to deceive you.

What about “your truth”---the things only you know about. For instance, my mother had a best friend named Helen. She lived next door to us. They always visited one another and spent a lot of time together talking over coffee, reminiscing about the past and just sharing a wonderful friendship. Helen planted a beautiful blue spruce fir tree in our backyard that grew to be over 50 feet tall. Before Helen passed away, she told my mother that she would give her a sign that she was ok on the other side by growing a white rose out of a log. My mother couldn’t understand how she was going to pull that off, but she smiled and was happy that she even wanted to give her a sign.

Later that year in December, Helen passed away. My mother was devastated that her friend was no longer with us. Soon enough in the spring, my mother was walking outside in the back of the garage to get something. She noticed that a small tree was knocked down from a storm. My mom walked over to it and noticed a white rose growing right out of the tree. How can a rose grow from wood? Impossible, right? It was Helen’s sign that she was ok.

My mother was given a promise from her father (my grandfather), that when he passed away, he would send her a pigeon. See, my mother moved an hour upstate- away from the city. There aren’t any pigeons where she lives. My grandfather was from Brooklyn, NY and took care of his pigeons that flew on his balcony on the top floor of his tenement that he owned. He cherished them. So, the significance of sending my mom a pigeon when he died was important. A few years after his death, my mom got her pigeon. He was practically living on the roof of the house. He used to hang out by the poolside and just waddle around as if he owned the place. She smiled and then called him Frederick, which was my grandfather’s name.

Has anyone ever promised you a sign when they pass over to the other side? And if you were given that promise, would you actually believe it was from them? What sign would you give somebody if and when you do venture on to the other side?

22 comments:

Leesa said...

I remember hearing about someone who was executed in France (guillotine). He made a pact that if he could think after execution, he would roll his eyes. Well, his head rolled.

Oh, but my comment misses the point. I just wanted to tell the story (I don't get many opportunities to do so).

Guess I am off to lunch. I am going to pick up something at the local Walgreens - I will ask the Goth chick who works there. Maybe she would know about the afterlife thingie.

Leesa said...

First, I was actually first to comment!

~Deb said...
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~Deb said...

Eyes, heads, ---all relative, right? And yeah, can you let me know about the transactions and doings re: the pharmaceutical goth girl? I'm pretty sure she would know the meaning behind life after death for atomic chickens.

Much appreciated babe! ;) You're too funny! Get back to me.

Brandi said...

never been given a promise like that but I absolutely believe it. absolutely.

and I love this story.

DaBich said...

I most definitely, posilutely, absotively believe in the afterlife. I also believe that others who have gone there have sent us messages.
Me? I'd have to send a penguin as my message =D

Todd HellsKitchen said...

Great post! The white rose thing is eerie though...

I heard once when you find a face-up penny on the sidewalk, it was put there by one of your angels...

X. Dell said...

(1) I'm not a firm believer of the extraterrestrial theory, but not all crop circles are man-made--just the ones they show on TV. In fact, the ones that aren't man-made have very different characteristics and physical properties. My best guess is that it's a weird force of nature.

(2) No one has really ever told me to look out for a sign from beyond the grave. But I'll be addressing this issue shortly on my own page, because I can imagine that a particular sequence of events represented something close to your story of the flower and the log.

~Deb said...

Brandi: Thank you! My mother suggested writing about it.

Dabich: A penguin? How cute!

Todd: Yeah, the face-up penny also means good luck, doesn’t it? But, it’s a nice thought that an angel sent it to you. Next time, I want some hundred dollar bills faced up from my angels!

X. Dell: Have they ever discovered crop circles that were not made by man—ones that are definitely made by extraterrestrials? It’s odd, isn’t it? I’d like to believe it, but when I hear stories about kids with lawn mowers, it sorta’ makes my belief dwindle just a bit.
I’ll have to check out your article for this topic. That sounds interesting! Thanks!

CP said...

My friend Derek died in November of last year. Accidental overdose of drugs. Anyway, I find that sometimes a coincidence occurs. If I am thinking strongly of him, a song comes on the radio that always made me think of him. It almost feels like he is answering me. At least, I like to think so.

It's not a popular song which makes it all the more genuine.

CP

~Deb said...

CP: I remember you writing about your friend Derek. Isn't it amazing when you receive signs that seem so 'meant for you'---that it's no mistaking that it's him? My friend Stan died in a boating accident a while back, and like your situation, when a song comes on a radio that is never played - I mean, this is underground-ish type of music - I like to believe it's him saying hi. I once got so many signs while having dinner with Madelene that I said aloud, "Just show yourself if that's you!"

Moments later, a bright orb came crashing through the room and bounced up right into the corner of the wall and ceiling. (It was as if he was new with his new round bubble device.)

I looked at Madelene to see if she saw the same thing --- I did not say ONE word to her because I wanted to see if I wasn't going crazy or needed an extra dose of sumptin', ------she looked at me and said, "Did you see that???"

I had chills down my spine and goosebumps all over. But, I always say just like the internet, you cannot rely on these "signs" being your lost loved ones. Demons can hack very easily into the spiritual world, making you think it's them. But, I'd like to think it was him, however, I don't rely on it.

Packsaddle said...

Interesting topic, Deb.

I applaud you for having the courage to write about such things.

Thank you.

Michelle (artscapes) said...

My grandmother told me that the women in the line are aware when their mother/grandmother passes. My grandmother said she was given a shove at the end of her bed and she knew her mother had passed. Sure enough, the call came in the morning. She had only my father and I am the next closest female - so she says maybe that's how I'll know when she passes.

kathi said...

Gray area for me, don't really know what I think. My mom always said she'd come back and give me a sign that there was an afterlife. I'm thinking I'd be so happy to be with the Father AND the Son that I'd not be thinking about giving someone a sign. Maybe to comfort them. See...no clue what I think.
Oh, if my mom gave me a sign, I missed it.

JC said...

Hey Deb, I've gotten behind on my blog reading so I'm trying to catch up today. No, no one has ever told me they will leave me a sign for the other side. I would not want them to and I don't plan on leaving or sending a sign to anyone. I plan on being to busy when I cross over to concern myself with what or who is left behind.

I guess it would be nice but I've never experienced it. My late/ex-husband was a pastor and I've heard many at death accounts of the other side reported to us by family members. Enough that I know that both heaven and hell exist in a dimension other than this.

Great thought provoking post. Thanks, have a great weekend.

Amy said...

Hey please send me your email so I can add you as a reader. I have gone private to avoid certain readers...

Enemy of the Republic said...

I believe strongly that people from the other side can and do connect with us, but they do it only as they can. We are limited in our physical form so we want a vision or some blast from the thunderclouds. It doesn't work that way. Some come as rainbows, some as flowers, some as butterflies, some come in your dreams--particularly lucid dreams, sometimes you just feel their presence and know they are there. I also believe the dead know exactly who they can communicate with--often if you are too close to the person that died, he/she will not come to you but to someone else who will pass on the message. This is done out of mercy, because initial grief, particularly in sudden death can drive a person to temporary madness.

People can think I'm nuts for this, but I've researched this from almost every angle and I won't be shaken. I know when I pass over, there is someone waiting for me who told me so--this person will not move on until I get there; I was told that while this person lived and I got it confirmed after the passing. I am not afraid of death or of spirits who wish to make contact.

Seven said...

Is this as important as baseball? Field of Dreams is about the concept of building a baseball field in the middle of a corn field in Iowa. The famous (and deceased) 1919 Black Sox team reappears under the concept that the field builder is given a message from an exogenous source that if he builds the baseball field they will come. You know this story, right?
If we give good cause they will come in some form. If we have faith it can bring forms of life that might only appear as a vision, but are nevertheless real. Imagine for example that Helen and nature did not grow a rose from a log, but instead embedded the vision of the same in your mom's brain by other means unknown to the earth bound. Is it the same thing? I think it is.
This is my way of saying that communications are not limited to our feet on the earth's dirt understanding of it. This is the chief failing of those that readily dismiss unexplained phenomena. If I pass, might I earn a new power? Certainly possible, but if it is not viewed as a believable visit then why would I appear at your field of dreams?
You mom saw the rose because she had faith in Helen. Was the rose real? Certainly it was real enough to her. Could someone else see it? Perhaps not. Does it matter; the message was from Helen to your mom.

X. Dell said...

Artificial crops circles have to be stamped by some tool. Thus, you have large swaths where the grain--or whatever it is--bends in the same direction in large clumps (size depending on whatever you used to mash down the grass). In a non-manmade crop circle, each stalk bends in a diferent direction, independently of others around it.

Also, the kids with the lawn mower kill the grain. In the other circles, the grain is bent, but still alive. Also, there are often unusual electomagnetic readings in non-manmade circles.

Some estimate about 80% of circles are artificial. I think the percentage is much higher, boardering close to 99 or 100%. Some people theorize this can be caused by such natural phenomena as ball lightening or rushes of ionized air. But for the few that aren't explained, I'm not really sold on the extraterrestrial, or paranormal explanation.

SJ said...

I have heard such of such happenings from others but never experienced any myself. Maybe my mind is just too factual.

~Deb said...

Packsaddle: No courage needed. I’ve always believed in this since I was a kid. Even if one doesn’t believe fully, it’s a nice thought to know that your loved ones are looking down upon us as they’re up in heaven.

Michelle: That’s incredible. That’s what happened to me while I was attempting to visit my sick grandmother. As soon as I had a dream about my grandmother telling me, “Please don’t come see me like this, remember me how I used to be”-----with my stubbornness, she had passed away the morning I woke up. I do believe that they let us know. Thanks for sharing that.

Kathi: I’d like to also think that we don’t see our deceased loved ones because they’re busy up in heaven with Jesus. So, my thoughts teeter-totter with that.

JC: I do believe that heaven and hell exists, but there are gray areas too that we just don’t “know” about. We can believe it, we can think about it, but we don’t have the full knowledge because it’s all about belief and faith. However, to think that a loved one ‘can’ send a message somehow, letting you know they’re “ok” and “in heaven”, then that’s a wonderful thing in my opinion.

Amy: Sent! Thank you!

Enemy: Regarding the person that won’t go till you’ve passed: doesn’t that mean unresolved issues or something to that nature? They say, that if you want the person to be happy and move on into the light as they say, then light a candle and pray for that person waiting for you in order for him/her to push through. I also believe that on the other hand, time is so different than what we know it is here on earth. So what may be a lifetime for us may only be 10 minutes for them. Interesting! Thank you for sharing that!

Seven: I see what you’re saying. The thing is, Helen’s rose appeared to all of us because not only did I see it, but she showed it to my father and my sisters. The rose was real and oddly sticking out of a log. But, I do believe that we can see things through supernatural sources that other people just cannot.

X.Dell: I was thrilled with the thought of aliens making contact ---- until I heard about the fake crop circles. Ah well. Then I started losing my faith in that – totally debunking every single “claim” of extraterrestrial visits. It was creative though—I’ll give them that!

SJ: Well, a lot of people who put science and facts above anything else that cannot be explained will have a more difficult time “seeing” supernatural things. Understandable. I “believe” I see a silver party hat on your head. Is it real? Am I the only one that sees it? If you change your picture, will anyone else believe me? (heh)

Nancy said...

Hey, sweet thing!

My friend is dying right now. I wish we could communicate after he is gone somehow, and I bet you he will. I have experienced that before in subtle ways with another friend of mine.

Houdini was into this theory, too.