Tuesday, October 01, 2013

Kiryas Joel: Corruption Hidden Under a Religious Blanket

Every father should remember that one day his son will follow his example instead of his advice.
Up in Monroe, NY in a community called Kiryas Joel, citizens usually isolate themselves from the rest of the outside communities, yet own most of everything. I have done business with them when I used to work for a telephone and internet company nearby. There seems to be many health issues among them, many on Medicare or Medicaid. I never knew why and who was I to judge? While working for the telephone company, they would get a discount if they provided me with a copy of their Medicare or Medicaid cards. No exaggeration here, but 90% of the Hasidic community that I have dealt with were all on Medicare. Why? Some say they’re the richest people around. They buy land all over – literally. They practically own all of Monroe, NY. Are they really disabled? Or is it about money? If they have so much money, then why do they need Medicare and welfare? I’ve seen so many Medicare cards fly by my desk for approval and wondered what was wrong with all of them. Why do they have so many health problems? Or am I wrong? Are they really in need of government assistance?

Is it health or money?

From observations alone and by working for the local telephone company, they would provide me with a social security number, in order to open up a new account. (I totally disagree with giving a phone company your social security number, however it was their policy.) Most of the social security numbers were from a deceased loved one or a very young child. They used a dead person’s identity or a child’s, in order to open up an account. I didn’t think much of it, because there are a lot of people who do that anyway. I wasn’t going to say, ‘all of them’ do this, because that would be wrong. Many of the residents of Kiryas Joel were found on fraudulent assistance from the government or using somebody else's identity from Medicare or Medicaid to get a discount. So the bulk weren't all "disabled" or "poor" --- they were using fake identification cards to get a lower cost.

In a New York Times article, it was reported that Kiryas Joel was the poorest place in the United States! That has to raise some eyebrows.

"About 70 percent of the village’s 21,000 residents live in households whose income falls below the federal poverty threshold, according to the Census Bureau. Median family income ($17,929) and per capita income ($4,494) rank lower than any other comparable place in the country. Nearly half of the village’s households reported less than $15,000 in annual income. About half of the residents receive food stamps, and one-third receive Medicaid benefits and rely on federal vouchers to help pay their housing costs."

In the headline news a few years back, there was a huge tax fraud problem in the Village of Kiryas Joel in upstate, NY.

Welfare burden, tax fraud "Kiryas Joel residents have been alleged to cheat on taxes by claiming that they have a temple, or a place of worship, in their homes.[citation needed] Obtaining tax relief as a house of worship means the property is excused from paying property taxes that support local services, such as public schools, roads, water and sewer, fire and police, and so on, including the funds which subsidize welfare payments.

It is the custom in Kiryas Joel for women who work outside the home to stop doing so at the birth of their second child.[4] Most families have only one income and many children. The resulting poverty rate makes a disproportionate number of families in Kiryas Joel eligible for welfare benefits when compared to the rest of the county; and cost of welfare benefits is subsidized by taxes paid county-wide.

Per the New York Times, because of the sheer size of the families (the average household here has six people, but it is not uncommon for couples to have 8 or 10 children), and because a vast majority of households subsist on only one salary, 62 percent of the local families live below poverty level and rely heavily on public assistance [government welfare], which is another sore point among those who live in neighboring communities."

I’ve always questioned their culture and how they lived. I’d never judge them, however they stand out alone when these issues come out into the open. With this community having and saved so much money, through tax exemptions, as well as buying property all over the state, how and why are they on Medicare and welfare? As many children as they bear, it’s no wonder that poverty sometimes comes into play. Or does it? I have mixed feelings about it.

In an article in The Jewish Week of New York, they listed the scandal that rocked the community of Kiryas Joel. I knew eventually, their phony identifications would be revealed.

"Federal agents converged on the upstate chasidic community of Kiryas Joel last Thursday, sealing off part of the community in an early morning raid to catch an alleged ring of swindlers.The agents arrested nine men, including Mordechai Samet, 40, the alleged ringleader, and later charged 14 people with a total of 68 counts of cheating individuals, banks, insurance companies and the government out of millions of dollars.

Prosecutors say the arrests stemmed from a two-year investigation and that the men, whom they referred to as the Samet Group, created “an elaborate web of false information to carry out” frauds. The men allegedly created phony identities, fraudulent social security numbers and tax identification numbers in order to obtain benefits for non-existent people. Members of the group were also charged with scheming to obtain over $1 million in fraudulent small business loans, defrauding banks by using counterfeit checks totaling $6 million, and various schemes to defraud life insurance companies, and with credit card fraud stemming from an alleged pyramid scheme.

Authorities charged that men had been carrying out their scheme since 1996, and had used a sophisticated system of telephone voice-mail accounts and post office boxes to avoid being connected to their schemes.The defendants entered no plea when charged in federal court in White Plains last week. A pre-trail hearing is set for April 10, the third day of Passover.“This case demonstrates how vulnerable private companies and public entities can be when racketeering enterprises which are versed in finance and business practices use that knowledge to carry out frauds,” said the United States attorney for the Southern District in New York, Mary Jo White, who is prosecuting the case in coordination with the Internal Revenue Service, the U.S. Postal Inspection Service, the Social Security Administration and the district attorneys of Rockland and Orange counties.

Calls to Samet’s home on Tuesday were not answered. His attorney, Suzanne Brody of the federal defender’s office in White Plains, did not return a message left on Tuesday.The raid on Kiryas Joel, a Satmar enclave whose efforts to create a one-district school for disabled children have created a constitutional controversy, began at 6 a.m., when agents disguised as deliverymen entered the town, according to residents.Access to some streets was denied by agents toting shotguns, said Joseph Waldman, a community activist and clothing manufacturer. He said he and other residents were upset at the extent of the operation used to apprehend alleged white-collar criminals in a community where violence is rare.

A spokesman for the FBI in New York, Joseph Valiquette, said the operation was routine. “Whenever the FBI goes out on an arrest operation, we certainly go with enough agent power to ensure everyone’s safety,” he said. “In this case we were going to arrest eight or ten people from that community. We didn’t do anything in that community that we wouldn’t do on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.” Valiquette said he was aware of no complaints from the community regarding excessive force.Another member of the Satmar community, who lives in Brooklyn but is acquainted with some of the defendants, said he was undisturbed by the agents’ methods. “Certain people think it has to do with anti-Semitism,” said Isaac Weinberger, a city employee from Williamsburg, Brooklyn. “But I think they were afraid [Samet] would flee. Nobody would blame the agents how they came in. Maybe they shouldn’t have come in at 6 a.m. to wake up children, but it’s understandable.”Waldman said the arrests had caused the village residents to feel “very sad and ashamed. This gives a very bad name to the community. I hope the accusations are untrue. It doesn’t help this particular community and the chasidic community as a whole.”In addition to Samet, the other defendants are Chaim Hollender and Moses Weiss, both 25; Kalmen Eisenberg, 24; Moses Perl, 34; Hershber Hirsch, 23; Yishrael Leibowitz, 39; Cheskel Samet, 23; Yuda Weiss, 33; David Hershkowitz, 22; Yehuda Steinberg, 30; Joseph Jacob, 32; Aaron Solinsky, 62 and Chaim Wiesel, 33.

The defendants face a range of charges, the most serious being racketeering, which carries a sentence of 20 years, faced by Samet and seven others. Other charges brought against members of the group include money laundering, wire fraud, false statements and bank fraud. The latter charge carries a 30-year sentence."

My question is, did they need to resort to this, due to healthcare and other provisions that are needed when possibly intermarrying? Or is it just purely out of money and wealth?

Just recently, it was reported that during the time of elections, there was even more fraudulent activity brewing in Kiryas Joel.  An article from the Hudson Valley News 12 reported this: "Nasty accusations are flying in Monroe amid an unresolved election for town supervisor. Democrat Harley Doles leads the race over Republican Sandy Leonard and United Monroe candidate Emily Convers. However, Convers claims the front-runner engaged in voter intimidation, electioneering and harassment near a local polling place. A video reportedly captures Doles handing out ballots near a polling place."

During the elections, they handed out ballots seen below that excluded row H --- the opposition candidates.

Want to see Maria Vazquez-Doles calling Harley a "fucking hump"? CLICK HERE! This is the candidate that Kiryas Joel wanted to elect? Hmm, doesn't seem "kosher" to me. I guess it is all about the money.

During election, this was distributed within Kiryas Joel. The translation of this flyer reads, "The KJ haters have ganged up with the village of Monroe under the name united. United to destroy us as they openly write, they will throw a rock to block every step of the way. They have come up with antics lately like we have never seen before if god forbid they win they will destroy us."

In another article found from The Hudson Valley News 12: "The Monroe Free Library is now excluding residents of the community of Kiryas Joel. Library officials say that anyone is welcome to the library, but they won't be able to take out books. The library says it's not a religious issue, but rather a financial one. According to the library, Kiryas Joel has not paid taxes toward the library since 2005 as part of an agreement that would let them build their own library. Under a state agreement, people with a Kiryas Joel address no longer have borrowing privileges, although they can still use the resources inside the library."

They never want to play fair.

Just the other day, two gentlemen from Kiryas Joel walked into the Orange County BMW with two checks for over $1,500 to put toward their purchase of a new car. It even said on top of the check, "this is not a valid check" --- but it was valid if they were to purchase a BMW. When have your ever seen a Hasidic Jew drive a German car? Needless to say, they gave the salesperson such a hard time about "false advertisement" and demanded their money right away. Managers had to fix the misunderstanding and have them put on their glasses to read the fine print. "This is not a valid check." Time wasted. They want something for nothing and they don't care about mistreating people if they don't get what they want. It is NOT anti-Semitism --- it's about playing fair with the rest of society. Now that their corruption has been found out, I highly doubt that they're going through with this annexation, however, what's to stop them from buying up property and creeping up on the poor village of Monroe? Orange County would literally go bankrupt if they decide to move their ant farm inward.

I mean, come on --- they're listed as the most poorest community in the United States. Whenever they pull the semitism card out, I wish they'd also pull out their Medicaid card as well as their true bank statement under someone else's name which has more money than we can ever hope for. I just hope Monroe doesn't sell out and say, "Eh, screw it," and make this entire town one huge Monsey.

They are not holy people nor the chosen ones. They're just corrupt. Plain and simple.

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72 comments:

The Agent of Entropy said...

Would it be different if Italians did the racketeering? The stigma behind Jews being “cost effective” and “money conscious” have people with a warped sense of perception assuming the cultures of the Hasidic Community. Views like these separate the communities and isolate the Jews from coming forth to join with us as friends. We seem to be the bad guy in all of this, because of our distant perceptions. We don’t know for sure how they live or if they intermarry. We can’t assume that they stole or if they took advantage of the government. How can we base our opinions on a culture we don’t live in?

Enemy of the Republic said...

Oh, I'm not disagreeing as I don't know enough. I had never heard any of this. If your friend and you see this, then it must be so. I just offered some information on the bad press Hasidism gets, often from other Jews. I do know that marriages are arranged, and if the community is small, inbreeding would be a natural occurance. Biologically, that is a horrible idea as it weakens the gene pool and can lead to the illnesses you name. I would like to know more about this.

tkkerouac said...

deliverance?

upstategal said...

I personally know nurses who work with the Hasidic families in the community at a medical clinic. MANY of the children have birth defects due to inbreeding. These children have their own school and are pretty much hidden away. This is a fact. Thought you'd be interested.

Anonymous said...

They have more children so there might be more incidences of birth defects, just as there are more incidences of multiple births, high intelligence (above average IQ) births, etc. More births means more of everything. This is so anti-semitic of you, insinuating that inbreeding makes them unhealthier. Let me give you a heads up. The Hispanic population, the Black population, the newly immigrant populations, all have the same rates of Medicaid (as do the Appalachian states, etc). It is a given that people whom others hate (because they are different) will be given less opportunities in career advancement. So, you breeze into the phone company and get a job, whereas a Chassid would not get that same job just because he doesn't look the way you do.
For all that, crime is at a crazy low in their community, social services and volunteering is up beyond other communities, and a sense of civic duty transcends other communities too. Not bad for a poor community.

Anonymous said...

I live right near the community you are talking about in NY. Do you know part of the reason the public school district in that area is SO terrible is because they have control of the school board? They block vote on the school board and turn down any budget proposals that involve increasing taxes. The schools need the bigger budgets to improve, but that will never happen as long as the Jewish community has control of the school board. They could care less about all of the public schools because their kids go to private Yeshivas.

And....did you know that President Clinton pardoned members of the community there for fraud that involved stealing money from the local community college. Why did he pardon them?

Because of the block voting. They all voted for Hilary Clinton for senator in return. Granted, they usually vote Democratic anyways, this ensured they would actually GO OUT and vote for Senator Clinton. The Jewish vote, especially in that community was practically the deciding factor in the race. You don't think Bill was already thinking about that when he pardoned those men?

I hear they are buying up land more and more even further upstate NY. I hope they all move up there. I'm tired of driving past the mansions they live in and watching them get rich off government hand-outs.

Anonymous said...

It isn't "interbreeding" that determines the number of Jewish birth defects, but it does seem to be due to the fact that they marry mostly ONLY from their own Jewish "closed communities," but NOT close relatives. For that reason, genes will not get "watered down" or lost, but can be found in many people who produce children together. If people originally from only one part of the world would have only procreated with others of identical histories over time, the same thing would have happened.

Anonymous said...

Just came back from a trip to jellystone park in woodridge,ny. Never been there before and went with 3 adults and 5 children. I am on this site for i am trying to gain knowledge about hasidic jewish people. We experienced them for the first time on our trip and it was not a good one. Jellystone was on the middle of a 4 mile road. The beginning of the street was a camp of very poor hasidics and at the end of the street lived wealthier hasidics who all owned suvs and nice new caravans. My impression when seeing them was they were the most ignorant people on the planet. When there were countless children crossing the street with there families at our campsite the jewish men would drive by 50 miles an hour on a 5 mile an hour street not slowing or caring to see if they might hit anyone. I was told by others they simply dont care. If a car was in the way they would beep their horns several times having no patients. Several of them would walk by with no expression on there faces. We tried calling the state police but no one came after 1 hasidic almost hit a woman in a wheelchair.
We screamed at them to slow down and they did not. We were told by the locals that they are taking over the land, paying no taxes, living on wellfare, that they are very dirty, dont give a damn about non-hasidics and are basically just BREEDERS. I agree and i will never go back to that Jellystone or to that area again.....

JEREMY BLOCK OF WOODRIDGE NY said...

HASIDIC DRIVERS IN SULLIVAN COUNTY NEW YORK ARE THE WORST DRIVERS IN THE NATION. THEY KILL THEMSELVES AS WELL AS THE YEAR ROUND LOCALS EVERY SUMMER. THEY HAVE DESTROYED COUNTLESS VEHICLES OF MINE IN THE PAST 16 YEARS. MY SISTER WAS HOSPITALIZED WHEN SHE WAS STRUCK BY ONE WITH NO HEADLIGHTS DRIVING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD AT OVER 85 MILES PER HOUR. THESE HASIDIC MORONS ALL LIVE PRETTY MUCH TAX FREE, OFTEN DEMANDING NOT TO PAY LOCAL TAXES FOR RELIGIOUS REASONS. WITHIN THE PAST 4 DAY I HAVE HAD OVER 30 NEAR MISSES WHILE ATTEMPTING TO MAKE IT HOME ALIVE EACH NIGHT FROM WORK. IN THE WINTER YOU CANT GO OUT BECAUSE OF SNOW STORMS. IN THE SUMMER YOU CANT GO OUT BECAUSE IT IS SIMPLY WAY TOO DEADLY TO TRAVEL THE LOCAL STREETS WITH ALL THOSE HASIDIC DRIVERS RUNNING AMOCK NEARLY HITTING PEOPLE, DRIVING INTO HOMES, DRIVING ON THE SIDEWALKS, AND ESPECIALLY JUST BEFORE SUNDOWN FRIDAY NIGHTS WHEN IT IS A FREE FOR ALL- SPEEDING AT DOUBLE THE SPEED LIMITS OR HIGHER THRU RESIDENTIAL AREAS JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE HOME BEFORE SUNDOWN AND THE POLICE HAVE TO LET THESE IDIOTS GO BECAUSE ITS SABBATH. IT IS ACTUALLY MORE LIKE "BLOODBATH" CONCIDERING HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HURT OF KILLED EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST HASIDICS FOR BEING HASIDIC NOR DO I HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST JEWISH PEOPLE. IT IS JUST THE FACT THAT HASIDIC DRIVERS ARE DEADLY PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING OVER UPSTATE NY AND WHEN THEY DO CAUSE A FATALITY OR SERIOUS INJURY, THEY SKIP TOWN TO ISRAEL TO AVOID PUNISHMENT. THESE PEOPLE ARE THE REASON FOR OUR INSANELY HIGH TAXES, INSANELY HIGH INSURANCE RATES, AND ARE NOW A VIRUS AFFECTING OUT LIVES AS WELL AS SAFETY. THEY NEED TO NOT EVER BE ALLOWED TO EVER GET BEHIND THE WHEEL OF AN AUTOMOBILE EVER AGAIN. IT IS REALLY REALLY SAD HOW YOU CAN BE PUNISHED FOR DRIVING DRUNK, YET THESE HASIDIC DRIVERS ARE ALLOWED TO DRIVE IN A MANNER MUCH MORE DEADLY THAN DRIVING INTOXICATED. ONE CAMP HAS ONE DRIVER'S LICENSE ISSUED FOR THE ENTIRE CAMP, AND WHEN THIS FEMALE DRIVER WAS PULLED OVER AND ASKED FOR HER LICENSE, SHE PRODUCED ONE BELONGING TO SOME BLACK MAN RESIDING IN BROOKLYN. I MEAN WTF??? TO ALL HASIDIC DRIVERS READING THIS, GO THE HELL HOME BECAUSE IF YOU GUYS WRECK MY NEW CORVETTE, THE POLICE WILL NOT ONLY BE RESPONDING TO AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT- BUT TO A HOMICIDE AS WELL- YOURS! YES I DARE POST MY NAME BECAUSE EVERYONE THAT LIVES HERE YEAR ROUND AND ARE FORCED TO PUT UP WITH YOU DEGENERATES SUMMER AFTER SUMMER SHARE MY VOICE IN THIS MATTER. AND YOU HASIDIC PEOPLE CALL US INFIDELS ? GIVE US A BREAK. GO THE HELL HOME OR IF YOU STAY PAY YOUR TAXES AND NEVER EVER EVER DRIVE.

Anonymous said...

Another thing about the camp in Woodridge NY (I have been to Jellystone too); do you remember when a bear ate a Hasidic baby up at that camp? Authorities said it was attracted by all of the garbage left lying around. I remember seeing tons of trash as we drove by the Hasidic camp; no trash at Jellystone. So where will the bears be looking for food? The camp with the garbage, and a poor innocent baby was killed because of their negligence!

Yeah said...

These people are pieces of shit who don't pay taxes, have no respect for people outside their community, and shamelessly engage in archaic, disgusting "traditions" like circumsizing babies by having rabbis bite their foreskin off. I'm not making this stuff up -- it was just a year or two ago when one of these molesterous rabbis made the news because he had passed his sexually transmitted diseases onto Jewish babies as he put his mouth on their penises. WTF?!?! What other culture/religion can get away with this stuff?

I've met Hasidic people over the years, and they've been routinely rude. Once, I met a Hasidic woman on a formal occasion. I held out my hand in greeting. She looked at it, frowned, and then just ignored it. Apparently it's beneath them to shake the hand of a goyim. Another time, I offered my jumper cables to a pair of Hasidic men stranded on the side of a road. They looked at me with contempt and ignored me. What great cultural ambassadors, eh?

Some people here are trying to argue we're somehow mistaken in our views of Hasidim, when in fact their behavior is responsible for the opinions people have about them.

Sorry, but NO ONE lives in a bubble, and respect is a two-way street. You cannot expect people to shower the Hasidic community with love when all they get is contempt in return.

Anonymous said...

I've lived and worked near these people. my first experience was when I was 16 and working in a Shoprite in Mt. Kisco, NY. The Hasids had been given a piece of property around Chappaqua/Mt. Kisco and when they came into the store, you had to watch them closely as they would try stealing things under their black coats.
I lived near them in Rockland County for a year or so and had to deal with them in Williamsburg Brooklyn as well while servicing computer equipment, they always made me nervous. I have never heard or seen a good Hasid story, always one of filth, theft, cheating and just plain being strange. The Mt. Kisco property was an estate at one time with a very beautiful in ground pool and gardens, they proceeded to fill the swimming pool with household trash and garbage, can you imagine?Remember the case when the Hasid ran over and killed the black kid in Brooklyn back a few years ago, there was rioting and protests. Did you notice that they ALL came out of their houses and swarmed like bugs in the street when something happens, kinda scary if you ask me. These are not kind, friendly neighbors as you would expect of "God's people", but rather secluded, inbred(sp?) troublemakers.
I'm sorry, I am not a prejudice person, but the Hasidic Jews are just too much to handle and we NY'ers have a big population of them. I was shocked to learn many years ago that they live in Australia too! Wow, talk about hot and stinky, heavy black coats and hats in the Outback! I know, it's probably Sydney and or Perth, but still. I pray that no one EVER gives them land in my beautiful part of the Hudson Valley. Bad neighbors, dishonest people and a bad image overall for the general Jewish communities. Finally, they do have medical problems because of generations of bad genes, weather they brought these defects with them from Eastern Europe many moons ago or they are now or still inbreeding, this has to be a factor. I'm anonymous because I'm tired of creating user accounts not because I'm afraid to be known.
Good luck to all those Hasids out there, I do hope God shows kindness upon your people and tells you that it's time to join the world!

johnnyrico said...

in response to anonumous who claims its anti-semite to criticize inbreeding.
while im not sure its a proven medical fact i am sure that inbreeding(regardless of religion) causes higher rates of birth defects.
the reason chasids especially satmar dont know/worry about this is that they are told by the ( he also tells them where to bring the medicaid card to make his chosen clinic rich so he can donate more to the shul)not to marry under local laws....so that they can then collect the max public assistance payout under state/federal law, whereby unwed uneducated mothers with 6 kids get top dollar.
as far as low crime rates?????? ARE YOU KIDDING? do you live in a cave? (You have obviously never been near a chasid in a car) 1.rubashkin family over 100 indictments in three states and the federal gov.taxes/ilegal immigration/child labor/ osha violations/toxic waste dumping.
2.orange county smedicare scam, 3 brooklyn/LA siska tax/insurance fraud/bank loan scams.
Do this math
1 million people who dont pay taxes x six kids per couple who will be trained to take advantage of the system= alot of worthless crosseyed freaks who give judaism a bad name.

grouseshiela said...

I became a friend of someone who is part of an orthodox Jewish community. I hadn't really known much about them until then. I found that this particular group, (i dont know what they are called) dont have arranged marriages but marriages by introduction. It has to be someone who is part of that branch of the religion whether local or international. It was recently that I relised that I was being told about a disproportional number of disfunctional family and extended family members by this person. Ie birth defects and severe personality disorders. It suddenly dawned on me that there might be an inbreeding problem there. Its true, no matter what group you might be talking about, failure to include genetic diversity will produce the pitfalls of inbreeding. I only arrived at this blog because curiosity led me to search google. There is also a particularly tragic life shortening defect which i forget the name of which occurs in a certain Pakistani group that marries cousins. It occurs in Britain too because children are sent back to that Pakistan village to find their future spouse. It probably is to some degree a burden on the health system, but I dont think you can legislate against it in the free world. Which we all love. Don't we?

Just_because_today said...

Damn girl, you have a lot of anonymous readers! smart, they know they might be a post about them brewing somewhere.

Anonymous said...

A couple of hasidic kids came up to me while I was at the dock on my jetski and asked me if I could give them a ride.I was shocked because I have never met any friendly ones and also thought that it was probably against their beliefs,you cant be mad at the kids for how there parents mess them up ,so I took them for a quick ride. They were thankful but I did wonder if they would look back on that day as getting something for free from an infidel.

Anonymous said...

The hasids are a menace everywhere they start the get a foothold in. Jews who are NOT hasids have to bear the brunt of the badwill these cockroaches create for them. Believe me when you have thousands of them in my area (north side of Toronto, Canada) you can't help but find them roaming the streets. Very vile people who will look at disgust at you if you are not one of them (unless you are a black man then they will go out of their way to give you a wide berth both as an overreaction and an insult).

I realize this is an old site post but I had to comment.

Anonymous said...

all jews have horns, right? now you know. oh, one thing - why do you worship these evil jews, such as jesus?

jessica said...

Are you kidding, person above me? No one said Jews have horns. We are not even talking about Jews! Only one sect. One sect that gave my Jewish friend a hard time at her job for wearing a Star of David, saying she was not a "real jew." People who have earned our disgust by ACTING disgusting, not because they have a different holy book or unusual clothes. Amish don't get this kind of derision, because they are NICE to people and take care of themselves!

Anonymous said...

Attention hasidic and other upstate new york residents.

You deserve each other.

Nothing is more amusing, albeit scary for us educated city folk driving on the thruway to watch a pick up truck with an unsecured atv, driven by some guy with no shirt, teeth, or a square inch of untatooed sunburned flesh give the pulsating finger to an over packed out of control bus full of hasidics with blank stares and using their sidelocks as dental floss.

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Anonymous said...

I'm a Modern Orthodox Jew. Who is disgusted of the Hasidim and the bad name they give all Jews.” They will all burn in Hell”, that’s what my Rabbi said. They don’t consider any other Jews "Jewish" and have no regard for anyone that is not there own. When you see this Hippocrates don’t look at them as Jews because they are not. See them as Misled whackos. That is the sentiment among the vast majority of Jews

Anonymous said...

One time I got a flat tire. Dozens of cars passed me. Then a van stopped and two Hasidic men came out. They helped me and were very nice. I was really touched by this. I am not even Jewish. They simply helped another human being on need. There are good people and bad people in every group.

TreeHugger said...

I hope I don't come across as a frothing at the mouth, racist or a religious xenophobe but after taking a trip up to Woodbourne, NY & comparing it with the once beautiful Lakewood, NJ & various other Hasidic enclaves it dawned on me that ALL of the cities, towns, boroughs, etc. get to looking horribly run down. While cruising all the way up from the Philadelphia suburbs to Woodbourne, NY, we passed pretty little towns in both the Poconos & the Catskills, yet once we got closer to Woodbourne & the Hasidim; the area looked as if someone set off a dirt bomb & left the center of town barren except for a few sprigs of weeds here & there. Aren't these people looking to escape to their mountain resort commune homes, apartments, bungalows & hovels to get away from the barren lands of Brooklyn, Queens & so forth? How can the be proud to decimate the fauna & flora, the beauty of nature? Lakewood, NJ was once a lovely town where the center of town had flourishing businesses, beautiful trees, flowers & grass made for a picturesque view of the swans swimming in the lake & people were friendly & helpful to both town citizens & visitors. Now, as you drove on Route 9, the once beautiful trees, flowers & lawns are gone, with a dusty mix of sand & soil covering the ground. Businesses have left & even the benches that lined the roads are either in total disrepair or gone completely. Have the Hasidim absolutely no pride to keep their home & vacation towns clean & beautiful? It doesn't take much to keep the plants that are already there alive & thriving, grass & annual flower seeds are also inexpensive & easy to use. Would it kill the men, women & children to use a push broom to clean the sidewalks? Is their some ancient Jewish law that says that they must behave as the biblical locusts that stripped the land bare? As a non-Jew, my rare business dealings with Hasidim have left me wary. Of these various business deals my husband & I have had with them, 9 of 10 will lie, cheat & even steal instead of following the fair business practices they are known to use with each other but I'd never realized that they did nothing to beautify nor maintain the areas in which they live or vacation at. Can someone explain the reasoning, if there is any, or should I just seek out a public arena to vent & open their eyes to their filthy & un-environmental friendly ways? I cannot imagine any people; be they black, white, Jew, Christian, Buddhist, etc., that seemingly enjoys destroying natural beauty & replacing it with barren, trodden dirt. Someone, please explain this to me. I beg of you. It simply is not logical in any area & my brain cannot wrap itself around accepting it as being beneficial to anyone, esp. those who reside or vacation there.

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It really bothering to hear that the number of perpetrators when it comes to tax fraud related crimes are continuously increasing, actually, I've talked to several fraud solicitors about this alarming number because my friend was a victim of this very vicious crime, I must say, and they told me that it's really important that you always seek some help to an expert in the field so that, you will be assured that the process, procedure and the one you're transacting with is really legitimate and legal.

Anonymous said...

Growing up in Rockland, I had friends of all sorts. This group (Hasids)are absolute parasites of the highest order. Monroe is a prime example of what happens when residents stop paying attention and stop voting in elections...the parasites move in.

Anonymous said...

Some of the comments here are lovely and thoughtful; others are so venomous, it's terrifying to read. Can you really make such a blanket statement about an entire group of people? Isn't that called racism? Isn't that what people do to those living in inner city areas? I believe it's called stereotyping and profiling and that it's coming out of the mouths of those who say, "I'm not a racist, BUT..." is depressing. They're individuals who belong to a group, and while there are some who are corrupt, you should not paint them all with that brush.

United said...

^^^To anonymous above. Are you kidding me? This write up was taken from numerous and reputable sources!

Debra clearly stated, " I wasn’t going to say, ‘all of them’ do this, because that would be wrong. Many of the residents of Kiryas Joel were found on fraudulent assistance from the government or using somebody else's identity from Medicare or Medicaid to get a discount."

IMO, I believe you are from KJ. Your community is nothing but corrupt people working the system while the people of our town pay for our taxes and give back to the community. Nobody would stick up for such criminal people! You should be ashamed of yourself and selling your soul to the devil. Greed and dishonesty is a sin isn't it?

Anonymous said...

Actually we do know they stole, they have already been convicted of this. They isolate themselves, and are you serious did they take advantage of the government? They purposely do not register their marriage with the state, only in the temple so their wives are able to collect welfare. They also have (near my home) a house with trailers outside where they have women not of their faith whom they pay to have children for them who their wives then raise as their own, this is a CULT that hides behind the name of the Jewish faith.

Anonymous said...

To united and the other person who responded to my post: not only am I not a member of Kiryas Joel, I am in a biracial and interfaith marriage. I guess that shows what happens when you make assumptions and rush to judge, yes? Your venomous comments once again tell me that people insist on saying the same exact thing about every single person in a community, which I find racist and vile. I was not talking about the author of this blog, I was discussing some of the posts I read which dripped poison. There are rotten apples in every community and you would hope that the entire community wouldn't be attacked because that's STEREOTYPING. Many posts have gone into other things, such as how this proves Israel is evil. It's an excuse for anti-Semitism, and you're anti-Semitic, a racist, and an utter and complete fool.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and by the way- I can speak from experience, both past and present, that inner city communities regularly have issues with tax evasion, false paperwork, relationships they keep common law so it won't mess with government support, multiple children from multiple relationships, numbers and names from various people, able bodied people receiving welfare, etc. Did you want to make a blanket statement about those communities?

Anonymous said...

Reading the article it occurred to me, why do so many African Americans need welfare when they are making millions in Football, Basketball and other sports?

Anonymous said...

Please...LETS NOT LET THEM GET INTO BLOOMINGBURG NY

United said...

What's so funny is that they have this huge sign outside of their community that tells the outsiders (us) to wear long sleeves and certain clothing and to not walk along the opposite gender. Well WE HAVE RULES HERE TOO outside of your village! Stop the greed! That's all! I'm so sick and tired of them playing the race card. Greedy bastards they are. Oh it's because I'm jewish what a racist! Go tell it to somebody else you haven't screwed over. You all should be ashamed of yourselves those who live in KJ!!!!

Jessica said...

"why do so many African Americans need welfare when they are making millions in Football, Basketball and other sports"

I know right? Every single black person is a famous rapper or sports star! (eye roll)

United said...

Talking about ONE particular community, are you that ignorant? They're the most corrupt community in the US! Not talking about ALL of them we are talking about this particular community that don't pay taxes and cheat their way out of anything. They are scumbags who are liars, cheaters and criminals!

United said...

This federal action was brought by a resident in this Hasidic, ultra-Orthodox, close-knit community of KJ Village, who became a terror victim once he spoke out against criminal actions done under false religious pretenses.

In 2010, he got involved in a campaign to stop forced divorces that have been taking place through the use of criminal kidnappings within the community. Threatened by the campaign, some people aligned with the mafia religious groups in the community tried to silence him by constantly terrorizing and intimidating him. Officials from Orange County and others outside the community where then joined in their campaign to stop him.

After protracted terror and civil rights violations, in which county officials had played along to fraudulently facilitate these violations under color of law, he filed a lawsuit in federal court against his terrorizers, including the KJ Village and Orange County seeking protection and justice.

Subsequently the harassment and intimidation picked up with increased fervor and he soon found himself extremely terrorized, expelled from the Village, and homeless. His family was broken up and his children were taken from him—all in a plot to block his access to courts and stop his involvement in the religious campaign.

The religious groups and the mafia behind this terror in conjunction with the KJ Village then decided to use their powerful connections and political influence to conspire with the County Attorney as well as the other attorneys involved to contact the federal judge presiding over the case, Judge Briccetti, and convince him to back off and turn a blind eye, in the same manner they did with the State Judge.

Not only did Judge Briccetti stop performing his role as a neutral judge, but, acting under the influence of the KJ Village, he also became a participant in furthering the object of the conspiracy. The victim has now brought another lawsuit in federal court to set aside Judge Briccetti’s actions as it was induced by fraud.

Anonymous said...

Join the fight to stop the abuse of political power by KJ Village and its allies http://www.kiryasjoelvillage.com/join-fight-stop-abuse-political-power-kj-village-allies/#comments

Anonymous said...

KJ Village and allied religious groups violate the Constitution and take control of federal and state courts

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Anonymous said...

You hit it on the nail . They don't pay taxes but take advantage of all the benifits the system has to offer . Useless parsitic people just feeding off hard working peoples tax dollars .

Robert Seipp said...

Did a Target remodel at the store near there 2 summers ago..Definitely fraud going on.Breeding like rabbits, husband abusing the wife--You'll never see a NAVY uniform on these Hasids..a pathetic group of people..Disgusted.

Deb said...

Robert,

I was never against them, nor cared about how they lived their lives, until I realized that they're not just affecting their own communities, but they are infringing upon our own. What gets me is that they always pull the antisemitism card on us when it's not even about their culture --- it's about their behavior. I don't speak for all Hasidic Jews, I just speak about the many (the too many) Hasidics) who take advantage of the system and cheat their way through life. They have bought mostly everything in the towns around them and hike up the rent price for us, leaving us to leave to another storefront or just go out of business so they can expand. Soon enough, it'll be even worse than Monsey.

And I never thought about military service for them. Is that a religious "no no"? Good point!

Anonymous said...

i enjoyed your post .. i live in
Bloomingburg and am watching yet
another Hasidic Community being
built ,with most of main street
having been bought by the same to
open kosher stores , yet the developer denies that he is building
a Hasidic Community .
I read some of the responses and
saw things like having many more
children is bound to me more
health problems , etc. True,
but their gene pool has been shunted over the centuries .
Unlike any other village/city ,
a non Hasid cannot send their
special child to their private
school , or enjoy their new
birthing center ..they add nothing
to the general community , only
for their private club .
Sure most households' incomes are
below poverty level , so they
can get on the various government
doles .. but how do they affor
their residences and vehicles ??
If i were to apply for subsidies
i would be denied because i hav
a small bank account .
Another important point .. the
Hasids pretty much own the diamont
trade and deal in cash only .
they are poor ...
they simply rape the system ...
i view them as terrorists ... and
their activities need to be stopped ...

garce said...

Just as with many tenets of the US and various states' constitutions ,
all of the documents desperately
need review and amending .
They were written in another time
and place from whence we currently
reside . Just like the "right to
bear arms " the religious exemptions
are outdated .
2 centuries ago , the non taxation
afforded to religions was pretty
much limited to the house of worship and modest dwelling for the pastor/priest/rabbi .
I, for one , submit that what the
Hasidim are doing is akin to terrorism , undermining civil
structures . We keep hearing
complaints about healthcare and
abuse of our social systems ...
Stopping a young woman's education
short of a HS diploma, then
directing a young man, or men to
turn them into baby factories to
collect more welfare is certainly
barbaric and as bad as what goes
on in many mideast countries .
the whole thing is an atrocity ..
and for the Hasidim to keep declaring "anti semetism" towards
just about anyone is a bullying
tactic ....
NYS has been losing non financial
jobs and one of the highest tax
structures in the country ...
how much more until the thing
just implodes ?
Right now ,the Hasis are marching
into Bloomingburg , NY ... after
that Wurtsboro .. will they stop
at the Delaware Co. border ? or
continue all the way along Rt 17
to Lake Ontario ??
Are they broke ?? NO .. not as long
as they control the diamond industry , using cash and handshakes .. they have plenty of
money ... capital too ... g

Anonymous said...

Get off your high horse you naive fool. Stereotypes are not sui generis - they are based on observable characteristics that are routinely demonstrated by a discrete and insular group of the population. I believe that everyone has the right to think and believe what they want. But I reserve the right to criticize people when they adhere to a pattern of behavior which is both pernicious and self-aggrandizing. Sure, not every hasidic jew is a bad person, but as a group, they embody very few redeeming qualities. Therefore, they deserve every negative stereotype they seem to garner. If that makes me an anti semite then so be it. Anyone with half a brain, however, would see that it makes me not a racist, but a realist.

Anonymous said...

Why would you infer Jesus falls under the same category as "evil Jews?" Orthodox Jews reject Jesus, so if your intent is to slander Jesus name, it is a contradiction. Btw, in the future when God judges the world, in the Bible it says "Every knee and mouth will confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of God." Have care what you say because God will hold you accountable even if you are an atheist, Jew, or non Jew.

Elizabeth Gottfried said...

Not true you ignorant above me post. They do it because that's their belief and its part of their religion to be married by a Hassidic Rabbi in their own temple. Not because their trying to get over on gentile law you ignorant anonymous! Hmmm wonder why your anonymous! ?!

Elizabeth Gottfried said...

You ARE the ignorant one, not "THEM".
Why don't all you anonymous rude ignorant people show your true identity?Reason being, Because you know your wrong , and just seriously Antisemitic!

Elizabeth Gottfried said...

Your an idiot ,( another above antisemitic anonymously written post ), because if you actually new any better then you would know what the real reason why the women wouldn't shake your hand or any other mans hand besides her own husband can touch her! !!! Dugh!!! You ignorant antisemitic people know nothing about their culture at all! Try educating yourself before blogging about offensive condescending antisemitic ideals that are VERY WRONG!!!!!

Elizabeth Gottfried said...

Exactly, Isn't your lord and saviour,(Jesus ) a Jew??? :)

Deb said...

As the author of this blog post, I just want to point out that this was not based on opinions or assumptions, but rather actual personal events that I have experienced myself being that I worked for the telephone company and facts listed from the criminal history, corruption found within the community itself. Nothing in this article is anti-Semitic whatsoever.

Pulling out your race/religious card is the lowest form of a rebuttal.

Facts outweigh any sort of racist or anti-Semitic irrational assumption.

Read up.

Another interesting tidbit.

The "poorest people" in the United States are able to buy up everything. My sister works in real estate, and people from KJ will find builders outside of their community to purchase land and homes, buy it from them and then migrate/spill over into other areas without paying taxes and going around the system as legit businessmen who use food stamps at our grocery stores.

It's about corruption, not racism or anti-Semitism.

Deb said...

As if the town needs the spillover.

Monroe residents packed a Town Board meeting last night to voice their concerns over a controversial land deal that would double the Hassidic community of Kiryas Joel.

Many are critical of a deal that would take about 500 acres of land from the town to give to Kiryas Joel. Many of the protesters point to figures from Orange County that show the Hassidic village has the third highest number of people on Social Services in the county. "This is just a fraction of people who are upset. This is upsetting the neighbors. Why should we do this?" asks Ben Freidman.

Agencies from Kiryas Joel, the town of Monroe and the Monroe-Woodbury School District are all vying to become lead agency to spearhead the environmental impact study on the proposed annexation.

Watch this video.

William Henion said...

Ive worked in kiryas joel through the everywhere. They are dirty people. At one point ,a wifedid not want to pay my father for work Performed at her residence. He then told her he would undo the work he performed if not immediately payed for his services. She then payed him. Another time, I was picking up scrap metal at the curbside during spring cleaning. before I did this I called the New York State Police to ask them if it was legal I was told as long as it is at the curb side next to the road that is considered garbage.so I went there and was picking up scrap metal and at one point was pulled over by their public official and told I could not do what I was doing I disregarded him and continued , a little while later while turning around in the school a garbage truck block me off while I try to exit the school in my truck. I've been called the police . When they came i was told to put back what I had taken. they literally on their own town and policies and can do what they want and if you ever drive to curious Through kiryas joel there is garbage everyw

Anonymous said...

To be honest, I have a small inkling I may know what is up with the jewish community. I have had a few jewish companions and the majority of them seem to have this compulsion to be alone, all to different degrees. They also have some level of needing to show off.
This is worrying because these people, I have seen, lack common sense most of the time yet will do anything to push themselves further into the world.

Hitler probably went mad for the same reason as all this, however I know how to control my jewish associates now so that 1 F'er won't be bringing me down no more to boost his grades. (always 1 sided discussions, I'd tell him how to do something. Returning the favour, he tries to act smart by copying words the teacher used without a full understanding, that is one of the things I had to put up with anyway)

Anonymous said...

I LIVE NEAR THE HASIDIM AND THEY ARE TERRIBLE. THEY LIVE IN FILTH AND TREAT WOMAN AS BABY MAKING MACHINES, GOOD FOR NOTHING MORE. THEY WILL THROW A ROCK AT YOU IF YOU COME DOWN "THEIR" ROAD BY ACCIDENT BUT NO ONE CAN STOP THE BUSLOADS OF THEM BEING DROPPED OFF AT THE WELFARE OFFICE.
CHILDREN ARE PUSHING BABY CARRIAGES MADE FOR 2 AND 3. THE HOUSES ARE NEW BUT STREWN WITH DEBRIS.AND YET MORE TREES ARE BEING CUT DOWN TO MAKE MORE ROOM FOR MORE KIDS WHO WILL GROW UP TO NOT WORK BUT STUDY THEIR RELIGION ALL DAY IF YOU BORN MALE..THE WOMEN HAVE MORE BABIES, WHAT ELSE ARE THEY GOOD FOR?
IT'S GOING TO END, THEY ARE KILLING THEMSELVES. THE EARTH CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THEIR DEMAND FOR FOOD AND WATER AND LAND. BY HAVING MORE CHILDREN THEY WANT TO GROW STRONGER, BUT THEY GO TOO FAR AND SOON THEY ARE GOING TO GET WEAKER. THE WORLD WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE LAND, WATER AND FOOD FOR THEM. IT'S QUITE IRONIC.

Anonymous said...

I work in kj every day. I'm a goy just like you people. but i have been in every place of worship every mickfa. I've been every where from kj too monsey to upstate ny. there many different groups. they don't agree with each others beliefs . one thing i do know is that they help each other and there good with money. some of them suck and some them are my friends. good people. emts that could show up at your house and save your life. times change. if one day there are only jews maybe you should have stuck together and stood up for your people instead of letting the gov bend you over and insert.

Anonymous said...

The Hasidic "movement" is nothing
less than TERRORISM ... exactly the
same thing as Al Queada claiming
that Islamic code says that they
must kill all non Islamics ...
The Hasidic movement continues
up Rt 17 , building 395 units
in Bloomingburg . This spring there
was an election for mayor .. the
FBI swept through the village and
100 voters were found NOT to
have residence in the Village
of Bloomingburg ... so far ,
it seems that no fines nor jail
time will be handed out .. if
if committed voter fraud i would
be in jail because NY State is
anti christian (LOL) ..
BTW .. Hasidic Jews control the
diamond market in the US . all
trades done with handshakes and
cash .. they are not poor , just
discpicable ...
Basically , about 5% of Hasidic
rule the rest ..
I would bet my bottom dollar , that if the UN sent a task force
to Kiryas Joel , or Brooklyn ,
they would find a whole list of
crimes against humanity ...
At some point , they are going to
break the financial back of
New York State ...g

Sarah S said...

They are currently doing the same to Lakewood, NJ!! Google it..they stole millions in grants by inflating their enrollment numbers! There are 760 iPads they cannot account for that were supposedly bought for the schools with grants..they live in huge mansions while all receiving Medicaid, welfare, and food stamps! They have family members purchase their houses so they can act like they are "renting" and then proceed to have section 8 pay a mortgage on a house they claim to rent when in reality it is their house! Something needs to be done about this! They are trying to move from lakewood into jackson nj! Our zoning board in jackson just shot down their proposal to build an all girl Hasidic high school in one of our residential neighborhoods that rely on well water and septic tanks..clearly
Cannot support a school of that size and because we denied it and are taking steps to ensure jackson does not turn into the next "little Israel" they are now threatening to sue our town! They want to sue our town for us not letting them build a huge school on a 7.5 acre lot in the backyards of many residents in a residential area strictly zoned for 1 acre lots only! They claim we are anti-sematic

Sarah S said...

Because we denied a school that will cause a ton of traffic in an otherwise residential neighborhood that is not meant for all that, there is no water connections and a septic tank simply cannot handle that much waste at all, and only one student would be from our town..all the rest are from lakewood!! So now they want to sue us and appeal the decision based on some religious act or institutionalize a person act! Sorry but no one cares wht happened to ur ancestors in another country! Well, I mean not that we don't care but it's just not our problem to compensate the Jews for something a completely seperate country did to them! If that is the case what about all of the black people who were enslaved right here in our own country?? We don't do shit for them and we are the ones who actually hurt them, yet these hasidics can come in and take up all of our resources and bankrupt every town they move into!! It is absolutely ridiculous!! Well the Feds are in lakewood investigating them now..hopefully the government will finally start to see them for what they really are, that is of coarse if the Jews are not too far in their pockets already!!

Anonymous said...

Actually, I am an Italian American, Roman Catholic, and my husband is the same. My children are a mixture of Italian and Turkish and trust me, I know a little bit about the Jewish religion, the Muslim religion and Catholic religion. I must say that I have seen a close tie between Muslim and Jewish religions. According to the sign that they have posted about wear long skirts, sleeves below the elbows, gender separation etc. I can assume that people are afraid of change. This is America, and in America, we have freedom of dress, freedom of speech, etc. You cannot expect someone to walk apart from their families because of gender. I know when I move up to Monroe, NY, I am not about to be separated from my husband just because they want people to walk with each other according to gender. Honestly, I lived in Turkey for 7 years, and I had a lot of respect for their religion, etc., and honestly, to tell you the truth, all the "SO called: Very Religious People" did was talk behind anyone's back by saying, "Oh this one is going to hell because of wearing jeans or a short sleeve shirt, etc. etc." It was really getting to be annoying to me. Then there were the group of Muslims who wore all black, and they were like fanatics because they would pray five times a day, swear they were going to heaven, and then they would talk behind everyone's back. I believe in God, I pray in my head and think of God probably all day long, and honestly, when I lived in Turkey, I wore that trench coat, a beautiful pink silky one, and I got an infection under my arm from sweating to death from heat exhaustion. So, if you ask me, "Will I wear long sleeves again or heavy clothing in the hot summer heat, my answer would be, "NO SIR, NO WAY, I don't care." I like to wash my cars, all five of them in my driveway with my two piece skirt bathing suit on, and wet myself, and there is nothing wrong with that on my own property. If you don't like, then don't look.

Anonymous said...

Everyone has to respect each other. A lot of comments I read above, were mostly racist comments or just totally absurd. The bottom line is, everyone has a right to do what he or she wishes as long as they are obeying the law. This community, new KB community is not the law. They wish to have respect, that is quite understood. However, to live under their religion, is fine. Do it. Do whatever you please, but you cannot go around expecting the whole world to become the same or believe in your beliefs. In addition, maybe they may even think to change the clothing of kids in the school system, well, that will not happen. Plus, so many things have been changing in this country such as taking the word GOD off of the dollar bill or taking the word GOD out of the pledge. I still tell my kids to say it. Yes, we know there is separation of church and state, but why leave GOD out of the picture if you believe. Everyone is different, diversity is to be respected, so everyone do what they wish without judging. America has set forth guidelines for poverty, etc. and if someone has like 8 kids or so and meets the guidelines, then that's the way it is. Yes, sure some people play with the system. It happens all the time. People get caught all of the time messing with the system, and then they always find ways to go back and do it again. I have seen a lot of things go on especially in the Turkish community when I was very young in my teens. I've seen people marry for green cards, people pay off other people and do stuff that one women mentioned about people using each other's names etc. Those things are a crime of course, until someone gets caught. The bottom line is, I honestly do not really care who moves where as long as no one touches my privacy and makes us change the way of our own living. I mean, the sign they have posted is a polite request, but I mean, you cannot expect people to come wearing clothing up to their necks in 95 degrees weather. There are good people all over in every religion, and honestly, I really do not think God cares about what people wear as long as they are not walking around looking like they are up for grabs. Decent clothing is respected by pretty much many people. I mean, if it is hot, you wear lighter clothing, if you swim you wear a bathing suit. When I was in Turkey, the women wore their long skirts, long shirts, and I wore a bathing suit with shorts and a tank top over it to be a little less revealing since they were uncomfortable. Then, before we went home, they all decided to hold up towels and change their clothing to dry ones right in the open. I was like, "Are you guys nuts. Someone is going to see you." They were like, 'No, no one will see us because we are holding a towel up." I was like, "Well, I will stay like I am and change when I get home." Low and behold, there were two men in trees that saw all of them except for me since I did not change in public. I was like, 'So much for not sinning and wearing skirts and long sleeve shirts too swim." The bottom line is, people are afraid of change, and people are already comfortable living the way they are living. Hopefully, everyone can understand this and just don't judge and get to know people for who they really are. The heart is bigger and you can read people's eyes. Monroe looks like a really nice place to live, and I have quite a bit of an education. I will speak out and help in anyway that I can because people are to be respected, and America just does not have all these tough requirements on life. Life is too short to have so many rules to live by. Just live, be a good person, help one another in tough times, and life will be so much better.

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Anonymous said...

I mean, WHO ELSE backs up in a traffic circle because they missed the turn?

Anonymous said...

All cash transactions keep them from paying taxes but since they vote as a bloc - no politicians WILL DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

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I grew up in NYC most of my life and having always seen Hasidic people, they kind of blended in to me, like Black and Chinese people. They just existed, you know? It wasn't until I moved to Brooklyn that I really started seeing that there is a problem with these people. I work for Dept of Education and they are the majority of our Special Ed cases, sometimes getting $100,000 or more a year PER STUDENT paid in tuition to their Yeshivas. It's absolutely insane. My good friend works for HRA (welfare). Not only do Hasidics not have to work for their welfare checks, they don't even have to come to the welfare center. They have two reps, usually a man and a woman come in and bring a HUGE batch of paperwork and the supervisors come out and sign off on all of it. They are given much more in food stamps and welfare money than the Balcks or Hispanics and they don't have to comply with any of the rules the Blacks and Hispanics are made to.
When I moved with my fiance to Williamsburg was when I really saw for the first time in my life the truth about these people. They are DIRTY. Garbage everywhere and no tickets or fines like the rest of the people in the city must pay for dirty sidewalks or illegal dumping. In England, a group of them called the Haredi have taken over Stamford Hill and it's EXACTLY the same story. These people are filthy, they are all collecting the child benefit, all on the dole and they use public money thru the politicians to build up their own private institutions.
Like a poster above said, they can do all of this because they are breeding voters. No matter how retarded from inbreeding, no matter how illiterate and uneducated, and 18 year old American citizen can vote. The Hasidic are breeding voters and they all vote in blocs. So any politician who wants to be elected in NYC has to dance to their tune.
It annoys the hell out of me that they call people who point out the truth about them anti semitic instead of changing their behavior.

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